Couple notes for newcomers:
1. This is a VLM, not a text-to-image model. You can give it images, and it can understand them. It doesn't generate images back.
2. It seems like Pixtral 12B benchmarks significantly below Qwen2-VL-7B [1], so if you want the best local model for understanding images, probably use Qwen2. If you want a large open-source model, Qwen2-VL-72B is most likely the best option.
1: https://qwenlm.github.io/blog/qwen2-vl/
3.0
@hn_8fd39c
about 1 month ago
Agreed - I am surprised they did are not using Pixtral to read images as well.
2.5
@hn_b8aa3b
about 1 month ago
I like Qwen2-VL 7B because it outputs shorter captions with less fluff. But if you need to do anything advanced that relies on reasoning and instruction following the model completely falls flat on it's face.
For example, I have a couple way-too-wordy captions made with another captioner, which I'd like to cut down to the essentials while correcting any mistakes. Qwen2 is completely ignoring images with this approach, and decides to only focus on the given caption, which makes it unable to even remotely fix issues in said caption.
I am really hoping Pixtral will be better for instruction following. But I haven't been able to run it because they didn't prioritize transformers support, which in turn has hindered the release of any quantized versions to make it fit on consumer hardware.
3.0
@hn_d02659
about 2 months ago
The "Mistral Pixtral multimodal model" really rolls off the tongue.
> It’s unclear which image data Mistral might have used to develop Pixtral 12B.
The days of free web scraping especially for the richer sources of material are almost gone, with anything between technical (API restrictions) and legal (copyright) measures building deep moats. I also wonder what they trained it on. They're not Meta or Google with endless supplies of user content, or exclusive contracts with the Reddits of the internet.